Interview With Tony Bleetman [Video]

This is a video interview I did with Tony Bleetman.

It follows on nicely from the one that I did with Eric Baskind the other day and adds a professional medical perspective on a lot of restraint related issues.

Some of the main points are time stamped below:

00:23 – Inspectorate issues with the Youth Justice Board over certain physical restraint techniques (similar to the recent CQC issues raised with Eric Baskind);

01:45 – The basic principles of how to assist an organisation to understand what the challenges are in managing behaviour even before we get to the physical skills required;

03:26 – Providing the skills relevant to the needs of the organisation;

04:18 – The use of pain-compliance techniques and ‘blanket-bans’ on techniques not being helpful;

05:15 – Tony’s introduction to the late great Peter Boatman and the challenge given and what it taught him;

07:29 – Tony’s introduction to other industry sectors;

08:52 – The importance of working with the co-operation of staff and management to address the skills needed and how the system can evolve over time;

09:53 – Why having a rigid and inflexible set of physical skills don’t work;

11:26 – The ‘open book’ approach to helping organisations get what they need;

13:42 – The economic benefits to the organisation in the cost savings and how we saved one organisation 1/2 a million pounds in six months and the other savings in terms of litigation etc;

15:34 – Why are some techniques being taught that shouldn’t be taught?;

20:38 – A funny story about a ‘shin-kick and a fire extinguisher’;

22:53 – The important point about staff being allowed to use reasonable force if and when presented with a situation they couldn’t have planned for;

24:53 – Dealing with issues that hadn’t be dealt with properly before such as, nasogastric feeding and ligature removal;

26:42 – The George Floyd case and the ‘breathing talking fallacy’ (as in the Jimmy Mubenga case) and some important facts on positional asphyxia;

32:58 – The three mechanisms of death from pressure to the neck;

34:29 – The belief that when door supervisors (for example) restrain someone on the floor they must hold the restrained person there until the police arrive.

And here’s the Podcast version …………..

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